The parts of this book that deal with Dependent or Interdependent Co Arising, the history of Buddhism, and the parallels between Buddhism and Systems Theory are very good Joanna Macy s approach to the problem of radioactive waste, however, suffers from her own admitted fear and despair of the issue I m not eager to be critical of that fear radioactive waste is a scary ass problem however, in order to see the issueclearly, I think it s important for readers to be willing to do widen t The parts of this book that deal with Dependent or Interdependent Co Arising, the history of Buddhism, and the parallels between Buddhism and Systems Theory are very good Joanna Macy s approach to the problem of radioactive waste, however, suffers from her own admitted fear and despair of the issue I m not eager to be critical of that fear radioactive waste is a scary ass problem however, in order to see the issueclearly, I think it s important for readers to be willing to do widen their perspective beyond Macy s The book also suffers a bit from excerpt itis that is, a lot of material has been gathered from papers, articles, and pieces of books that Macy has written Little effort seems to have been put into unifying these pieces for this particular book This is not to say that the pieces contradict each other or make for incoherent reading the exact opposite is the problem the text becomes repetitive as she comes back to the same points in different excerpts.This is the second time I ve read this book I d read Parts One and Two, which deal primarily with Buddhism, a third time I think two reads of Parts Three and Four, which deal primarily with the author s experiences in Asia and her social activism, is enough for me.My copy is the 1991 edition The book was reissued in 2007, and appears, from the table of contents, to have been reorganized and reworked to some extent This is an amazing book So rich, so deep, so inspiring Written by an eco Buddhist, who uses her deep understanding of Dharma to mobilize our energies and compassion toward healing the earth I will be reading this book again and intend to attend workshops that the author runs or others run based on her Work that Reconnects I also was so taken with Joanna Macy that I am now reading her memoir She has written other books as well I will be reading them all If you have any itch to do something This is an amazing book So rich, so deep, so inspiring Written by an eco Buddhist, who uses her deep understanding of Dharma to mobilize our energies and compassion toward healing the earth I will be reading this book again and intend to attend workshops that the author runs or others run based on her Work that Reconnects I also was so taken with Joanna Macy that I am now reading her memoir She has written other books as well I will be reading them all If you have any itch to do something anything that might get us out of our current fix regarding our planet and conflicts, read this book it was this book that brought me back to a respect for, and belief in, buddhism that i had years ago, before i left it and went the direction of the Bible and Christianity and though i am primarily a Christian, i am also a buddhist this book might be considered to be eco buddhist in the sense that it reflects an understanding of buddhism, but also a deep love for the world, the creatures and plants in the world, and a desire to help do whatever possible to help human beings survive indefinit it was this book that brought me back to a respect for, and belief in, buddhism that i had years ago, before i left it and went the direction of the Bible and Christianity and though i am primarily a Christian, i am also a buddhist this book might be considered to be eco buddhist in the sense that it reflects an understanding of buddhism, but also a deep love for the world, the creatures and plants in the world, and a desire to help do whatever possible to help human beings survive indefinitely into the future at one time i believed salvation was my responsibility for myself, to go to heaven now i believe, as the bodhisattva believes, that one s task is to save everyone i believe in universal salvation and when you combine that concept with ecology, then what you desire is for every natural place to survive, with all of the trees, all of the plants, all of the animals, free of pollution or threat from human beings destructiveness we need to build a society for the long run we need to build a society that does not pollute the air water soil or spread radioactive waste in containers that will corrode quickly there is great wisdom in this book and i highly recommend it what are you doing for the human race do you understand human survival itself is in question get this book and ask yourself those questions and do what you can to heal the world My Thinkgirl.net review World as Lover, World as Self is a uniquely large scale meditation on social justice and ecology This newly revised and entirely relevant book may inspire activists of all causes and backgrounds Buddhist philosophies inform Macy s work, which realistically depicts the world s devastations At the same time, it promotes philosophical approaches to despair, shares heartening poems, and guides readers through meditation exercises For example, she does not shy away from di My Thinkgirl.net review World as Lover, World as Self is a uniquely large scale meditation on social justice and ecology This newly revised and entirely relevant book may inspire activists of all causes and backgrounds Buddhist philosophies inform Macy s work, which realistically depicts the world s devastations At the same time, it promotes philosophical approaches to despair, shares heartening poems, and guides readers through meditation exercises For example, she does not shy away from discussing death she situates us as ancestors who must act on behalf of future generations Since I slowed down and immersed myself in this book, I have found my own thinking to beholistic I have been mulling over the intersections of feminist, anti racist, anti poverty, environmental, and holistic health movements As she writes, we can take on isolated causes and fight for them with courage and devotionwe tend to fall into the same short term thinking that has entrapped our political economyWhat a difference it makes to view our efforts as part of a vaster enterprise Review by Julie Fiandt The first part of this book is very strong and ahead of its time, which is to say, Macy speaks in terms that I ve only recently heard in common conversation She jumps right into a view of ecology and environmental awareness that is definitely happening now, but wasn t nearly so talked about when the book was written Unfortunately though, as the book progresses, I found her concepts falling a bit short She differentiates emptiness from systems theory, instead of viewing them as different packa The first part of this book is very strong and ahead of its time, which is to say, Macy speaks in terms that I ve only recently heard in common conversation She jumps right into a view of ecology and environmental awareness that is definitely happening now, but wasn t nearly so talked about when the book was written Unfortunately though, as the book progresses, I found her concepts falling a bit short She differentiates emptiness from systems theory, instead of viewing them as different packaging for the same thing And some of the essays in the second half are quite dated It was an interesting read, but I can think of many stronger books on this subject matter i want to thank Goodreaders for their opinions you ARE this review World as lover, world as self readers responses to Joanna Macy s words This is a collation ofand Goodreads readers responses to Joanna Macy s book, World as love, world as self up to Oct., 13 My voice, in italics, structures and adds comments Joanna s voice is mostly indirect, seen through the mirror of her readers readers identified by initials The average reader ratings of Joanna Macy s book were sky hi i want to thank Goodreaders for their opinions you ARE this review World as lover, world as self readers responses to Joanna Macy s words This is a collation ofand Goodreads readers responses to Joanna Macy s book, World as love, world as self up to Oct., 13 My voice, in italics, structures and adds comments Joanna s voice is mostly indirect, seen through the mirror of her readers readers identified by initials The average reader ratings of Joanna Macy s book were sky high for both Goodreaders n 126 4.35 of 5, andrankers n 11 5.0 of 5 Joanna Macy s work brings my mind, spirit, and action home She writes, The one question threading through my life here on this beautiful Earth is about how to be fully present to my world present enough to rejoice and be useful while we as a species are progressively destroying it This book is my attempt to answer this preoccupation, as well as insight into the relief and guidance I have found in the teachings of the Buddha Intro, p 11 Her words invite us to learn our world anew, to notice, to feel deeply, to change, and to act Learning from Joanna Macy s words I can t even begin to put into words how important this book is It focuses on our interconnectedness with the natural world, the psychology behind our apparent disconnect and how to begin to change it, to come back to our rightful place in nature If you want to heal your relationship with the planet, this is a must read MK uniquely large scale meditation on social justice and ecology At the same time, it promotes philosophical approaches to despair, shares heartening poems, and guides readers through meditation exercises JU Macy merges Deep Ecology, Buddhism and systems theory to address the many environmental crises we face NM The book s title suggests that people tend to view the world in one of at least four ways as battlefield, as trap in which the world is viewed as a tempter, ensnaring us in its web, and that our job is to transcend this existence to free ourselves from it TOD , as lover or as self RG Her foundation is firmly in Buddhist thinking and practice, and she spends the first half of the book giving us a compelling history of Buddhist thought and its place among other religious and spiritual traditions KC The parts of this book that deal with Dependent or Interdependent Co Arising, the history of Buddhism, and the parallels between Buddhism and Systems Theory are very good CHA She teaches a challenging philosophy There s a lot of fairly technical stuff about early Buddhist doctrine, which I probably didn t understand at all SAR Mutual causality Part Two discusses the contemporary relevance of classic Buddhist teachings, especially the concept of mutual causality RG Joanna speaks of deceptively simple dependent co arising mutual causality, things do not produce each other or make each other happen, as in linear causality They help each other happen by providing occasion or locus or context, and in so doing, they in turn are affected p 33 Gaia is a self regulating world I loved her quoting Australian rainforest campaigner, John Seed I try to remember that it s not me trying to protect the rainforest Rather , I am part of the rainforest protecting itself This book connects ecological activism, psychology and Buddhism together in a wonderfully encouraging way I particularly like the guided meditations that are found throughout the book, especially the Meditations in Deep Time section where we reconnect with the beings of the past and the future and ultimnately with Gaia herself JG including Active Hope, Mutual Causality in Buddhism and General Systems Theory, Coming Back to Life, and Widening Circles a Memoir move to bottom of page Noticing Engaging mind through learning demands active noticing Macy writes about the Buddhist practice of Sarvodaya which means everybody wakes up RM We say everything is interconnected but what does that mean These are the questions I have and this is the book for them GD Time,a friend in peril This book is mostly about future looking A new idea for me was reinhabiting time to be responsible to future generations Joanna Macy asks us, through the voices of the Haudenosaunee Iriquois Confederacy to listen to the voices 7 generations back and the voices of those 7 generations forward She contrasts this view with a pervasive hurry sickness AM Capitalism can reward acting at this reckless speed Yet, we truly are about to become dust and ashes Can we contribute to our world as we go Joanna s political engagement led her to say, both the progressive destruction of our world, and our capacity to stop that destruction, can be understood as a function of our experience of time p 171 We are grounded richly by acting for the longer run, rather than with a temporal horizon of the next micro trade or even profit loss goals three years down the road The most powerful point Joanna Macy makes is that we DON T have to feel sure of success, or certain of failure, to rise up and try to save the world for our grandchildren There are no guarantees She provides stories of Tibetan monks who have rebuilt destroyed monasteries even in the face of future destruction In that same spirit, cheerfully, we need to rebuild our precious planet, with a smile on our face, no matter how unlikely the result Any effort will do there are a thousand ways to help KC We can act with ease if, only if, we trust ourselves as teachers and trust our students, our offspring, as part of us My passing is the passing of one water drop in a river KC found Macy broadening Be Here Now This author challenges the holy grail of most meditative traditions the present moment Joanna Macy is impatient with those of us who are content to feel good and be in the now The future, she argues, must be ever present in our minds, meditations, and actions Our minds must visualize future generations, who are depending on us to wake up in time to salvage and rejuvenate life on earth Deep Feeling Joanna has a deep love for the world, the creatures and plants in the world CH Our job is to be both fully aware in fully in love Thank you, Joanna Macy, for this wonderful gift to all humankind TOD Joanna Macy teaches, in World as Lover and in Active Hope that the road to hope and connection is through despair for the world The cause of our apathy is not indifference It stems from a fear of the despair that lurks beneath the tenor of life as usual The refusal to feel takes a heavy toll It not only impoverishes our emotional and sensory life flowers are dimmer and less fragrant, our loves less ecstatic but also impedes our capacity to process and respond to information The energy expended in pushing down despair is diverted fromcreative uses, depleting the resilience and imagination needed for fresh visions and strategies Joanna Macy, pp 92 93 Despair to hope is not easy for CHA to swallow Joanna Macy s approach to the problem of radioactive waste, however, suffers from her own admitted fear and despair of the issue I m not eager to be critical of that fear radioactive waste is a scary ass problem however, in order to see the issueclearly, I think it s important for readers to be willing to do widen their perspective beyond Macy s World as Lover is a catalyst we are changed by it I read an earlier version of this book when I was nineteen, sitting in a college library I remember writing the forests are my lungs outside the body and understanding a little bit and reeling For a week, I staggered around like a man hit on the head with a plank GD This book will change the way you think MK I can work against depression on an individual self level AM but that there was something else bigger Since I slowed down and immersed myself in this book, I have found my own thinking to beholistic I have been mulling over the intersections of feminist, anti racist, anti poverty, environmental, and holistic health movements JU What you see teaches you, can brace you, and determines how you act Macy provides a road map for the rest of us so that we can see the infinite extent of our relations and develop the compassion to act wisely and not get lost in despair NM For real spirituality, for a view of the self and the world both exhilarating and useful see Joanna Macy She is helping us re imagine time, the world and the self GD Buddhist, Environmentalist, Philosopher, translator of Rilke all wrapped into a book that helps you when you feel so discouraged by the state of the world AM Joanna Macy promotes the desire to help do whatever possible to help human beings survive indefinitely into the future At one time i believed salvation was my responsibility for myself, to go to heaven Now I believe, as the bodhisattva believes, that one s task is to save everyone What are you doing for the human race Do you understand human survival itself is in question CH Four readers spoke of action implications If our species and civilization are going to survive, we have to take a humungous leap Recycling cans and eating blueberries is not going to be enough Al Gore, Thomas Friedman, Lester Brown are lined up with suggestions but where does the strength and vision necessary for transformation come For that, Joanna Macy is the best guide I have found GD Macy s careful understanding of Buddhism leads beyond the self and the moment, and requires a focus on the well being of the world Come down from your ashrams rise up off your meditation cushions Well being of the world requires political awareness and courageous activism KC I appreciate Joanna s efforts to emphasize the necessity of having a spiritual practice if one wishes to engage successfully and mindfully in social activism, AL The environmental problems we re witnessing today will require as much spiritual transformation as economic change RM Part 2 World as Lover is crafted is a personal and beautifully written book NM The most interesting part for the non Buddhist were the essays on her experiences studying and doing community work in Tibet and Sri Lanka SAR Not an autobiography, it nevertheless conveys most clearly the author s personal concerns in the fields of Buddhism, deep ecology and systems philosophy Joanna says this book contains so many pieces of my life that reflect the pursuits of my heart and mind RG Two readers felt some disconnect Her writing in World As Lover, World As Self was a little dry and mechanical for me AL This book may be a bit slow going for those who are not particularly interested in Buddhist thinking, but the second half is astounding, motivating, comforting, fresh, and even exhilarating KC World as Lover embraces life changes that readers had already made I feel grateful when my experience is outlined by World as Lover It makes me feel like I am on track AM this book was like finding gold I ve been practicing meditation for years and my experience brought me to the same life affirming conclusion that Joanna Macy expresses in this book TOD Like food, the best compliment is hunger forCHA This is the second time I ve read this book ED I m eager to read it again I first read at the beginning of this decade and have reread several times since CH there is great wisdom in this book and i highly recommend it RM I would recommend this book as a primer for those serious activists and nascent Buddhists, as well as a resource of insight for those exploring the connection of social activism and spirituality AL If Eckhart Tolle provide first class undergraduate work in human psychology and meditation practice, Joanna Macy takes us to graduate school KC If you want to heal your relationship with the planet, this is a must read MK Three and a half stars While a lot of the assertions about dharma weren t new to me, I loved her incorporation of systems theory and deep ecology with dharma She wrote about very complex issues in a simple, easy to understand way that I really appreciated This is also a great read for anyone suffering from burnout from confronting, again and again, just how dour a state the world is in right now Learning to accept one s despair and feel compassion for the world and the self as it is, is a Three and a half stars While a lot of the assertions about dharma weren t new to me, I loved her incorporation of systems theory and deep ecology with dharma She wrote about very complex issues in a simple, easy to understand way that I really appreciated This is also a great read for anyone suffering from burnout from confronting, again and again, just how dour a state the world is in right now Learning to accept one s despair and feel compassion for the world and the self as it is, is a seriously powerful teaching Honestly, I got 2 3 through and realized I was never going to finish it, at least not by the time it should go back to the library Macy s thoughts are brilliant, and she does a fine job of highlighting climate crisis as a spiritual crisis, and providing ways for us to enter our despair without having to pretend hopefulness I learned a lot from this book A bit sad to have to let it go, but it was time to move on. A new beginning for the environment must start with a new spiritual outlook In this book, author Joanna Macy offers concrete suggestions for just that, showing how each of us can change the attitudes that continue to threaten our environment Using the Buddha s teachings on Paticca Samuppada, which stresses the interconnectedness of all things in the world and suggests that any one action affects all things, Macy describes how decades of ignoring this principle has resulted in a self centeredness that has devastated the environment Humans, Macy implores, must acknowledge and understand their connectedness to their world and begin to move toward a focused effort to save it I couldn t take anything seriously after she blamed destructive worldviews on violent video games Smh.