Viele Laien kommen im Verlauf Ihrer Glaubensbiographie an den Punkt, an dem sie mehr ber den wahren , den historischen Jesus wissen m chten Wer war Jesus wirklich Was k nnen wir ber ihn wissen Und wie verh lt sich die sp tere Entwicklung der Urgemeinde und die Kirche zu diesem wahren historischen Jesus Auf diese Fragen liefert das Buch eine ausf hrliche Antwort Gro er Wert wird auf die Darstellung der Forschungsgeschichte gelegt, sowohl bergreifend wie zu den einzelnen Kernthemen Den Viele Laien kommen im Verlauf Ihrer Glaubensbiographie an den Punkt, an dem sie mehr ber den wahren , den historischen Jesus wissen m chten Wer war Jesus wirklich Was k nnen wir ber ihn wissen Und wie verh lt sich die sp tere Entwicklung der Urgemeinde und die Kirche zu diesem wahren historischen Jesus Auf diese Fragen liefert das Buch eine ausf hrliche Antwort Gro er Wert wird auf die Darstellung der Forschungsgeschichte gelegt, sowohl bergreifend wie zu den einzelnen Kernthemen Den Beginn bildet eine Zusammenfassung der Quellenlage, eine gut lesbare, ausf hrliche Einf hrung in diese Thematik Daran schlie en sich die Themenbereiche Das Umfeld Jesu sowie Die Verk ndigung Jesu an, gefolgt vom Themenbereich Passion und Ostern.F r mich pers nlich hat sich die Durcharbeitung des Werkes als sehr wertvoll erwiesen Die historisch Interessierte wie auch die Gottsuchende in mir geben dem Werk f nf Sterne Die Frage nach dem historischen Jesus wird durch dieses Werk so ersch pfend beantwortet, dass Raum f r neue Fragen und Entwicklungen entsteht.Eine theologische Beurteilung des Werkes kann ich nicht vornehmen An der Seri sit t des Versuches der Autoren, ein ausgewogenes Bild zu zeichnen, ohne auf klare Positionierung zu verzichten, kamen mir aber keine Zweifel I approach this work as a layman on the subject and so some might consider me inadequate for assessing its value, especially if that value is taken into consideration under the lens of academic value I notice that the response to this publication is generally positive so I assume there must be something I m missing I did have trouble grasping everything being discussed throughout and while I m sure it s easy to react dismissively that it s my own deficiency in theology and higher level readi I approach this work as a layman on the subject and so some might consider me inadequate for assessing its value, especially if that value is taken into consideration under the lens of academic value I notice that the response to this publication is generally positive so I assume there must be something I m missing I did have trouble grasping everything being discussed throughout and while I m sure it s easy to react dismissively that it s my own deficiency in theology and higher level reading that s to blame, I feel as though I understood enough to know what an overdose of academia looks like.Perhaps it s the translator s fault for the confusing and seemingly obfuscated discourse this book undertakes I know the history of Jesus is being discussed I know there s an attempt to divorce the history of Jesus from the myth of Jesus I know there are multiple references to theological concerns and a critical analysis of the literature and culture of the time is taken into consideration That being said, I can t help but feel that there is an easier manner in which to discuss these topics without the heavy handed usage of terminology and publication references.Maybe I was irritated by the title Historical Jesus A Comprehensive Guide which led me to believe I would be surveying actual historical evidence as opposed to a telephone book of postulates and theories Maybe it was evenirritating to have been seduced further in this direction by the synopsis on the back of the book, stating that it was, Beholden to neither ancient dogma nor contemporary fantasy, written in a clean style I would definitely say it falls within the realm of contemporary fantasy and while it has a structure of a sort, it is most certainly not clean Aproper title would ve been Theoretical Jesus A Deconstructional Analysis Which Writes More Than It Says and Weighs Heavily the Realm of Personal Interpretation What I did learn from this was a wealth of novel lexicon I got a peek into historical critique and how I ve taken for granted what we may think we know about the remote and perhaps even proximal past I ve seen how evidence can be in place for multiple interpretations but the author decides one fits his viewpoint better and so he casts aside any contradictory evidence or explains it away no I m not speaking from a religious standpoint.So all that being said, it all came off to me as an exercise in intellectual self indulgence, where we focuson theoretical precedent of theologians and historians than what we can scrutinize from the evidence itself Speculation and conjecture should be called out when it arises and should not be integrated into a greater narrative that is mostly fabricated in the imaginations of professors with too much time on their hands and an obsession with expounding for its own sake Now I have The Quest for Historical Jesus to look forward to and from what I ve read, my apprehension is that I m in for 400 pages of much of the same I give it credit for at least being comprehensive in some manner and being organized decently Not only is this book 500 pages long, the text is highly compressed, conveying a great deal of information This makes reading tough going for the student the primary audience , evenso for the interested layman Yet perseverance is rewarded Basic issues are clearly analysed, there is an overview of the history of research to begin each chapter, and the chapters end with a summary and hermeneutical reflection, supplemented by assignments, which the student can profitably fulfil.The author Not only is this book 500 pages long, the text is highly compressed, conveying a great deal of information This makes reading tough going for the student the primary audience , evenso for the interested layman Yet perseverance is rewarded Basic issues are clearly analysed, there is an overview of the history of research to begin each chapter, and the chapters end with a summary and hermeneutical reflection, supplemented by assignments, which the student can profitably fulfil.The authors have a clear guiding model for the reconstruction of what can be known about the historical Jesus, namely, that of a wandering charismatic Theissen has set this out in many earlier publications Yet alternate views are fairly presented The book is firmly situated in the so called Third Quest for the historical Jesus, one that seeks to factor in in a positive way the native culture of Jesus, the faith and practice of Israel Exegetical approaches are supplemented by a social historical approach, and the concerns of feminist criticism inform the treatment The Jesus who emerges is identifiably a part of the history of Jewish religion Highly recommended, especially for those confronted with currently popular mythicist treatment who might feel that the only alternative is a return to an ahistorical literalism Know now that this is not a book you will read straight through It is a reference book, and it will tell you everything you ever need to know about Jesus from a historical perspective. A pretty good summary of scholarship into the historical Jesus and the various views on the evidence At times, it feels like Christian apologetics and often the bending of logic they engage in is frequently embarassing for what is supposed to be a critical look at the evidence I suppose this book is intended for a course on the question of the Historical Jesus It is clear it is not an introduction although includes basic topics are explained.For me this is a great book because explains quite well historiography what most relevants authors has written about this topic, who is who and why affirms what affirms you will be able to understand the state of the art.Methodology is another strong point of this book because it is very well explained Theissen makes a big eff I suppose this book is intended for a course on the question of the Historical Jesus It is clear it is not an introduction although includes basic topics are explained.For me this is a great book because explains quite well historiography what most relevants authors has written about this topic, who is who and why affirms what affirms you will be able to understand the state of the art.Methodology is another strong point of this book because it is very well explained Theissen makes a big effot in explaining that historical critic research can not be reduced to the blind use of a few criteria and that the low level principles of contextual and effectual plausibility must be taken into account The problema here, again, is that you can get a bit lost if you are not familiar with the subtleties of these arguments.A great work is also done in explaining the different sources and its origins, although is not enough to achieve a look in depth perhaps it is not a fair comparison, because I have in mind Meier s work of four books.Finally it is very interesting the last chapter that explains how the beginnings of christology began It is a complex world, in which pagan and jewish ideas merge, but of course, it is very interesting.I strongly recommend, you don t need to read all, you can select the chapters you are most interested in,or less they are quiet autonomous.The book is plenty of exercises which can help you to better understand Obviously, they are oriented to students, but they can help you to focus on the main ideas Comprehensively detailing the sources for our knowledge of Jesus, Theissen and Merz fully explore the historical and social context of Jesus and his activity They then unfold what we can know about Jesus characteristics as a charismatic teacher, a Jewish prophet, a healer, a teller of parables and an ethical teacher Finally, they examine closely the historical question surrounding Jesus last supper, his violent death, the accounts of Easter, and the beginnings of Christology